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    Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Zai on Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:29 pm

    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/genesect

    Genesect aka genocide aka incest aka Mr.Robato is now uber.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Frashu on Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:36 pm

    Eh..Why do I feel like I was the only one who thought he wasn't a problem.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Zai on Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:47 pm

    If you didn't have a pokemon who couldn't check it on your team, you were butt fucked.

    On smogon's usage percentage it was on more than 50% of teams.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Safiliwen on Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:52 pm

    Problem is you make it sound like it was super duper hard to check. I kind of understand why but at the same tim he's not OHNOE worthy.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Zai on Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:45 pm

    Genesect does heavy damage to most of it's counters with U-Turn. Blissey/Chansey, Jellicent, Jirachi, and most other sp.d pokemon can't take a hit from Genesect weather if it's from U-Turn or any other attack it had. Besides that, Genesect also has a good amount of resistances, and paired with a rain it can take a fire attack, you know the only thing it is weak to it can take a hit from things faster than it and return it. Also BoltBeam.

    But anyway how do you deal with Genesect safi :3

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by buckthefuffalo on Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:08 pm

    It almost has to be choiced to be useful, so it was never really that big a problem for me. It's easy to predict around.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Evan on Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:40 pm

    gastro.
    works on every team.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Aaron on Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:13 am

    He fucking sucked. If it wasn't his lack of speed, it was his lack of hitting power. If it wasn't that, it was his lack of speed. He just wasn't really that good. Now his play level will be 0, because he'll be like Blazechicken in Ubers: Feared in the OU tier despite the ease with which it is countered/checked. Additionally, while U-Turn was really pissy, it's just not really worth it to say that he was a menace or, according to Safi, OHNOE worthy. He didn't really do damage to people, as his U-Turn does like.... 21% to Blissey WITH a Life Orb. It would be more like 15-16% to Chansey. Which is buttfucking nothing.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Evan on Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:29 am

    That's a horrible comparison. Blaziken shit ALL OVER a large portion of OU.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Aaron on Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:41 am

    Except for the part of the tier players who actually knew what they were doing. Such as you and I. He could set up on a ton of shit. Unfortunately, if he doesn't kill something, it WILL kill him. Such as Heatran. Hi Jump Kick! Oh, Protect. Hey look! I'm faster! Hi Jump Kick! Switch to Gyarados or something with Intimidate. Oh no, Stone Edge? I'm bulky. Bounce. GG.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Frashu on Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:59 am

    Korasi wrote:Except for the part of the tier players who actually knew what they were doing. Such as you and I. He could set up on a ton of shit. Unfortunately, if he doesn't kill something, it WILL kill him. Such as Heatran. Hi Jump Kick! Oh, Protect. Hey look! I'm faster! Hi Jump Kick! Switch to Gyarados or something with Intimidate. Oh no, Stone Edge? I'm bulky. Bounce. GG.

    I guess the problem is the part of the tier players who actually know what they're doing probably use the same counter-logic to counter your counter-logic.


    Pretty much he's probably so damn hard to stop for how much effort it takes to utilize him. If you didn't have a check to stop him you'd have a bad day and would probably lose.

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    Re: Genesect is now Uber

    Post by Aaron on Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:02 am

    But that's part of the game. Constructing a solid team is the biggest part. If you can't stop something, then you have a problem.

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